The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke
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I say Avery, that’s a bit harsh!
I have never voted Tory but would never vote Corbyn either. I don’t always choose to vote for the same party, but I cannot blame a loyal Labour voter for sitting things out while Corbyn is in charge.
His obsession with ideological re-purification reminds me of the Spanish Civil War (see Barcelona 1937). Franco or Stalin? I might abstain too.
Yes I know he’s not really anything like as bad as Stalin (and May isn’t really anything like as nasty as Franco) but I’m old enough to have encountered Militant in my Labour youth and his “movement” has the same smell about it.
In these challenging times Good People should indeed do something, but voting Corbyn doesn’t seem like a good idea at all even now. Not to me, and evidently not to quite a few other left leaning voters either.
I await the dislikes!
No need to dislike: you are entitled to your point of view – no matter how ill-informed and slavishly following the mainstream media line it might be. Corbyn is not even that left-wing these days.
People of Copeland voted for more cruelty to the less able, and the continued demolishing of the NHS.
Though if voters were required to have an informed, factual and considered basis for their vote, turnouts might be lower still – and, I like to think, the outcomes rather different…
I remember reading a while ago that voters don’t often change their allegiance, they just don’t vote for ‘their’ party if they don’t like its current stance. In the absence of an ‘abstain’ box to tick on the ballot paper, how else do you say: ‘None of you speaks for me right now’? What’s described as voter apathy could actually be genuine anger.
Lyn – interesting point.
Fair point, and likely a correct one, but if the voters cared enough then perhaps turning up and spoiling the paper would be the way to register that frustration. Spoilt papers are counted and declared, though they won’t change the result. iI think that if there were a substantial number of spoilt ballots declared it would generate debate and make both candidates and media more considerate of the reasons for voter disaffection.
For goodness sake some Labour politician worth their salt(surely there are some) have the guts to challenge Jeremy and win so giving those considering voting Labour a choice.
Whatever Jeremy’s fanatical backers say their are literally millions who will never vote for him and at some stage when the truth that he is not electable as P M then he will get booted out.I do think he is probably as nice a politician as most but not a capable person to have as Leader and the quality of his cabinet the words to describe it are simply too rude.
There are other more progressive parties than either Labour or the Tories. Neither are particularly environmentally friendly or EU friendly and have little to offer “progressive” voters as far as I can see.
Would you describe those who can’t be bothered to vote as “good men”. I wouldn’t. The words feckless, uncaring and self absorbed come to mind.
Not voting emphatically doesn’t mean can’t be bothered. Often it means “none of the above”.
One may or may not think that there are good reasons why so many people feel so disconnected from mainstream politics, but calling them all “feckless, uncaring and self absorbed” isn’t likely to make them think that politicians do care about them after all. Its more likely to confirm their belief that politicians treat them with contempt.
Personally I’ve always voted, but since I have never lived in a constituency where my vote had the slightest chance of influencing the outcome I have sometimes wondered why I bother. The curse of 1st past the post disenfranchises a huge number of people.
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I say Avery, that’s a bit harsh!
I have never voted Tory but would never vote Corbyn either. I don’t always choose to vote for the same party, but I cannot blame a loyal Labour voter for sitting things out while Corbyn is in charge.
His obsession with ideological re-purification reminds me of the Spanish Civil War (see Barcelona 1937). Franco or Stalin? I might abstain too.
Yes I know he’s not really anything like as bad as Stalin (and May isn’t really anything like as nasty as Franco) but I’m old enough to have encountered Militant in my Labour youth and his “movement” has the same smell about it.
In these challenging times Good People should indeed do something, but voting Corbyn doesn’t seem like a good idea at all even now. Not to me, and evidently not to quite a few other left leaning voters either.
I await the dislikes!
No need to dislike: you are entitled to your point of view – no matter how ill-informed and slavishly following the mainstream media line it might be. Corbyn is not even that left-wing these days.
People of Copeland voted for more cruelty to the less able, and the continued demolishing of the NHS.
Though if voters were required to have an informed, factual and considered basis for their vote, turnouts might be lower still – and, I like to think, the outcomes rather different…
I remember reading a while ago that voters don’t often change their allegiance, they just don’t vote for ‘their’ party if they don’t like its current stance. In the absence of an ‘abstain’ box to tick on the ballot paper, how else do you say: ‘None of you speaks for me right now’? What’s described as voter apathy could actually be genuine anger.
Lyn – interesting point.
Fair point, and likely a correct one, but if the voters cared enough then perhaps turning up and spoiling the paper would be the way to register that frustration. Spoilt papers are counted and declared, though they won’t change the result. iI think that if there were a substantial number of spoilt ballots declared it would generate debate and make both candidates and media more considerate of the reasons for voter disaffection.
For goodness sake some Labour politician worth their salt(surely there are some) have the guts to challenge Jeremy and win so giving those considering voting Labour a choice.
Whatever Jeremy’s fanatical backers say their are literally millions who will never vote for him and at some stage when the truth that he is not electable as P M then he will get booted out.I do think he is probably as nice a politician as most but not a capable person to have as Leader and the quality of his cabinet the words to describe it are simply too rude.
There are other more progressive parties than either Labour or the Tories. Neither are particularly environmentally friendly or EU friendly and have little to offer “progressive” voters as far as I can see.
Would you describe those who can’t be bothered to vote as “good men”. I wouldn’t. The words feckless, uncaring and self absorbed come to mind.
Not voting emphatically doesn’t mean can’t be bothered. Often it means “none of the above”.
One may or may not think that there are good reasons why so many people feel so disconnected from mainstream politics, but calling them all “feckless, uncaring and self absorbed” isn’t likely to make them think that politicians do care about them after all. Its more likely to confirm their belief that politicians treat them with contempt.
Personally I’ve always voted, but since I have never lived in a constituency where my vote had the slightest chance of influencing the outcome I have sometimes wondered why I bother. The curse of 1st past the post disenfranchises a huge number of people.