Ban driven grouse shooting 2019 Day 6

We’re now on Day 6 and the e-petition calling for a ban of driven grouse shooting is over two thirds of the way towards a Westminster Hall debate.

Here’s a map of where those signatures come from;

Here are constituencies with 154+ signatures already (the only significance of 154 is that is the average number of signatures/constituency needed to get 100,000 signatures overall). This list will be out of date by the time you read it – the figures are growing all the time (and take quite a while to compile). But I hope it is interesting.

Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey, Drew Hendry MP (SNP), 342 signatures

Ross, Skye and Lochaber, Ian Blackford MP (SNP), 265 signatures

High Peak, Ruth George MP (Lab), 298 signatures

Bristol West, Thangam Debbonaire MP (Lab), 254 signatures

Calder Valley, Craig Whittaker MP (Con), 299 signatures

Sheffield Hallam, Jared O’Mara MP (Ind), 251 signatures

Derbyshire Dales, Patrick McLoughlin MP (Con), 251 signatures

Edinburgh North and Leith, Deidre Brock MP (SNP), 249 signatures

Argyll and Bute, Brendan O’Hara (SNP), 234 signatures

Skipton and Ripon, Julian Smith MP (Con), 225 signatures

Truro and Falmouth, Sarah Newton MP (Con), 221 signatures

Stroud, David Drew MP (Lab), 218 signatures

Ochill and South Perthshire, Luke Graham MP (Con), 218 signatures

Thirsk and Malton, Kevin Hollinrake MP (Con), 215 signatures

Westmorland and Lonsdale, Tim Farron MP (LibDem), 214 signatures

Somerton and Frome, David Warburton MP (Con), 213 signatures

Brighton Pavilion, Caroline Lucas MP (Green), 213 signatures

Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk, John Lamont MP (Con), 212 signatures

Stirling, Stephen Kerr MP (Con), 202 signatures

Suffolk Coastal, Therese Coffey MP (Con), 201 signatures

Northeast Fife, Stephen Gethins MP (SNP), 199 signatures

South Norfolk, Richard Bacon MP (Con), 198 signatures

Wells, James Heappey MP (Con), 197 signatures

Penrith and The Border, Rory Stewart MP (Con), 196 signatures

South Cambridgeshire, Heidi Allen MP (Ind), 194 signatures

York Inner, Rachael Maskell MP (Lab), 194 signatures

West Dorset, Oliver Letwin MP (Con), 194 signatures

Central Devon, Mel Stride MP (Con), 191 signatures

North Norfolk, Norman Lamb MP (LibDem), 188 signatures

Edinburgh East, Tommy Sheppard MP (SNP), 188 signatures

St Ives, Derek Thomas MP (Con), 187 signatures

Sheffield Central, Paul Blomfield MP (Lab), 187 signatures

Hove, Peter Kyle MP (Lab), 187 signatures

Mid Norfolk, George Freeman MP (Con), 186 signatures

Moray, Douglas Ross MP (Con), 186 signatures

Richmond, Rishi Sunak MP (Con), 184 signatures

West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, Andrew Bowie MP (Con), 184 signatures

Bridgwater and West Somerset, Ian Liddell-Grainger MP, 183 signatures

Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweedale, David Mundell MP (Con), 180 signatures

Midlothian, Danielle Rowley MP (Lab), 178 signatures

Bristol South, Karin Smyth MP (Lab), 177 signatures

Broadland, Keith Simpson MP (Con), 175 signatures

Lancaster and Fleetwood, Cat Smith MP (Lab), 174 signatures

Hexham, Guy Opperman MP (Con), 172 signatures

Cambridge, Daniel Zeichner MP (Lab), 171 signatures

Torridge and West Devon, Geoffrey Cox MP (Con), 171 signatures

Witney, Robert Courts MP (Con), 171 signatures

The Cotswolds, Geoffrey Clinton-Brown MP (Con), 171 signatures

Totnes, Sarah Wollaston MP (Lib Dem), 171 signatures

Tiverton and Honiton, Neil Parish MP (Con), 171 signatures

North Somerset, Liam Fox MP (Con), 171 signatures

Sheffield Heeley, Louise Haigh MP (Lab), 169 signatures

Scarborough and Whitby, Robert Goodwill MP (Con), 169 signatures

Southeast Cambridgeshire, Lucy Frazer MP (Con), 168 signatures

West Worcestershire, Harriet Baldwin MP (Con), 165 signatures

Lewes, Maria Caulfield MP (Con), 165 signatures

North Herefordshire, Bill Wiggin MP (Con), 164 signatures

Colne Valley, Thelma Walker MP (Lab), 164 signatures

Norwich South, Clive Lewis MP (Lab), 164 signatures

Macclesfield, David Rutley MP (Lab), 164 signatures

Arundel and South Downs, Nick Herbert MP (Con), 163 signatures

Chippenham, Michelle Donelan MP (Con), 163 signatures

York Outer, Julian Sturdy MP (Con), 163 signatures

Oxford West and Abingdon, Layla Moran MP (LibDem), 162 signatures

Bath, Wera Hobhouse MP (LibDem), 161 signatures

Shrewsbury and Atcham, Daniel KawczynskiMP (Con), 161 signatures

Ludlow, Philip Dunne MP (Con), 160 signatures

North East Bedfordshire, Alistair Burt MP (Con), 159 signatures

New Forest West, Desmond Swayne MP (Con), 158 signatures

Hastings and Rye, Amber Rudd MP (con), 157 signatures

Waveney, Peter Aldhous MP (Con), 157 signatures

Rushcliffe, Ken Clarke MP (Con), 157 signatures

Rutland and Melton, Alan Duncan MP (Con), 157 signatures

Camborne and Redruth, George Eustice MP (Con), 157 signatures

South Dorset, Richard Drax MP (Con), 155 signatures

Wantage, Ed Vaizey MP (Con), 154 signatures

It’s a brilliant start; 76 constituencies already at or well past 154 signatures (48 Con, 14 Lab, 6 SNP, 5 LibDem, 2 Independent and 1 (ie all) Green Party). And some of them well past that figure.

And this analysis (done by a reader of this blog when the total of signatures was 60,200) shows the support by party:

NB based on parties after 2017 election – some seats have changed hands through defections/by-elections since then

Clearly, LibDem seats tend to be strong supporters of this e-petition and Labour seats much weaker – this is partly a reflection of the rural/urban split of the main parties’ seats.

Please sign this e-petition calling for driven grouse shooting to be banned.

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15 Replies to “Ban driven grouse shooting 2019 Day 6”

  1. Ian Botham wrote an article for the Telegraph last week telling 'London luvvies' not to protest about the way grouse moors are managed. The analysis of the location of the people signing the anti-DGS petition indicates that a lot of people who live in the vicinity of grouse moors are the ones protesting.

    1. David - very much so. And when the DGS folk got together a petition in favour of grouse shooting then some of the strongest support for it came from places like Fulham and Chelsea...errrr.... I guess Both got confused about which side the London luvvies were on.

  2. Interesting that most of the constituencies at the top of the list are in or around driven grouse moors. It would seem the locals are as fed up with the loss of their birds as much as we are.

    1. Two weeks ago I was fortunate to get to the first ever Revive: Coalition for Grouse Moor Reform conference in Perth. It was excellent! About 250 in attendance and apparently about the same number wanted tickets, but there was no room. Part of the schedule for the day involved a session in which people who lived in the vicinity of grouse moors could have their say. It was shocking, but I didn't find it that surprising after a few years now of looking at this issue and social media. Plenty of stories of people being 'interrogated' just for walking on the moors and surveillance if you're on them and not involved in grouse shooting. Somebody with permission for setting up camera traps to identify wildcats being treated harshly by gamekeepers - people with guns - who actually boxed in his car with their vehicles so he couldn't get away. When the factor was contacted and said the researcher had permission to be there all of a sudden the keepers tried to be his best mates. Stories about slashed tires and general intimidation and harassment galore - part and parcel of living near grouse moor.

      Despite the Pace Brothers 'Untold Story of...' videos it seems many gamekeepers aren't very cuddly to put it mildly. Clearly an awful lot of people on or near grouse moors aren't happy. In Scotland there's been a bit of a push recently for gamekeepers to play the victim re getting harassment, threats, insults at the hands of those extremist anti's. I have to wonder is this trying to preempt local people having their story told publicly? If what we heard starts getting into mainstream media it will be very bad news for the estates - the intimidation seems to be wearing off and I think Revive is having a lot to do with that. At one stage a show of hands was asked for those who live with grouse moors. A lot went up. Later on the excellent organizer Max told me he thought about two fifths to a half of all delegates were local to grouse moors. Quite a stunning number. This is really not good for pro DGS folk and I can only see it get worse for them not better.

  3. Assuming the Westminster debate happens, then what?

    From my understanding of the past record of such debates, MPs get the chance to air their views for 30 minutes or so, then the curtain come down.

    The following day, there is some media coverage after which the world moves on to other concerns.

    Will a grouse moor debate be an end in itself or will it be a springboard for a further initiative?

    If so, what will be that initiative?

    1. James - let's get to 100,000 and well beyond first, if that's OK? And we are unlikely to divulge our strategy to allcomers months ahead (if that's all right?).

      1. 250k. A quarter of a million. Just sounds a nice figure. A figure that you ignore at your peril.

        1. Perfectly achievable I'm sure! Only the end of the first week and already more than two thirds of the way to the critical 100,000 signatures, another 25 weeks to go. Today two Scottish tabloid papers gave space on their front cover to the story of gamekeeper Alan Wilson who has been convicted for extremely serious wildlife crime - killing of badgers, buzzards, goshawks and an otter, use of illegal snares and possession of carbofuran. How long before a national paper can be persuaded to back the petition? If during the next six months the story that local communities are being treated very badly by estates, and that those claiming DGS is vital for rural jobs aren't prepared to support calls for an independent study to back up their claims (ergo they know grouse moors are crap for rural jobs, but have been lying) that could significantly widen and deepen public antipathy towards grouse moors. I think we are going to see some very pleasant surprises regarding who and what starts supporting the petition in the next few months. This is a fantastic start and so much further still to go, the petition has been a brilliant success so very well done to Wild Justice!

  4. My 12 year old granddaughter feels strongly about the issue of raptor persecution and wanted to sign the petition but I suspected that there would be a lower age threshold. When I checked the information given on the petition website I could find no such requirement so I queried the point with HOC Petitions Service. I had a very prompt reply telling me that there was no lower age limit but:-
    "’s important that anyone signing a petition knows what they’re signing, and why."
    They went on to tell me that everyone signing needed a valid email address, so that they could receive the confirmatory email with the link to click on, and helpfully pointed out that up to two people could sign on the same email address so long as they "live at the same postcode."
    My granddaughter will sign this petition as she knows very well what and why she would be signing.

    1. Indeed, 12 year olds can and do have very strong feelings if properly informed. I think I wrote to the Scottish secretary about Barnacle Goose shooting when I was about that age, and got a reply. I had definitely read about it in a wide variety of conservation and wildlife literature and no-one said I shouldn't or couldn't comment...this was way before Devolution, so it would have been someone in westminster way back in the Thatcher years......
      Its the under-30s who will have more pieces to pick up from the mess we are currently making, so the more their voices are heard the better.

  5. “Great stuff” Mark. I just get that feeling that the tide is turning, albeit slowly, against Driven Grouse Shooting and the thoroughly rotten and cruel practices of many of the grouse moor owners. I think the days of the vested interests of so many Tories when it comes to grouse moors are really beginning to be numbered.
    Thanks for your very excellent talk about Wild Justice at the Bird Fair yesterday . It is great work that you , Ruth , Chris and your legal team are doing. It is so pleasing too that you have taken on the issue of 50 or 60 million young pheasants/ game birds being released every year. As mentioned before, in Holland the release of game birds for shooting is prohibited. Perhaps sooner or later, hopefully sooner the U.K. will follow suit and be dragged out of its Victorian and antediluvian attitudes. However this reform won’t come from the Tories.


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